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Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2014.12.20 16:29:07 -
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I am not sure why the dscan immunity is such a big deal. Instead of a Rapier, now i have a reason to fly a Hugin. What case does dscan change having a gang on a plex cloaked vers dscan immune? seriously whats the difference?
And in WHs who the hell is flying around without a cloakie. We just don't fly non cloaks most of the time. I sure as hell aren't going to waste time ratting sleepers in anything smaller than a t3. It would just be far too slow.
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Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2014.12.20 16:42:07 -
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hellokittyonline wrote:Delt0r Garsk wrote:I am not sure why the dscan immunity is such a big deal. Instead of a Rapier, now i have a reason to fly a Hugin. What case does dscan change having a gang on a plex cloaked vers dscan immune? seriously whats the difference?
And in WHs who the hell is flying around without a cloakie. We just don't fly non cloaks most of the time. I sure as hell aren't going to waste time ratting sleepers in anything smaller than a t3. It would just be far too slow. Because if I warp to a medium with a slasher in it for a GF, all I have to do is wait a few seconds to know if there is a pilgrim on the other side because he has to decloak PRIOR to me arriving in the plex to be able to lock me. Furthermore, said pilgrim has to be 30km+ (outside of pointrange) away from the beacon to cloak.
Not inside the plex, on the acceleration gate. Where we put our camps.
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Posted - 2014.12.20 20:25:49 -
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hellokittyonline wrote:Delt0r Garsk wrote:hellokittyonline wrote:Delt0r Garsk wrote:I am not sure why the dscan immunity is such a big deal. Instead of a Rapier, now i have a reason to fly a Hugin. What case does dscan change having a gang on a plex cloaked vers dscan immune? seriously whats the difference?
And in WHs who the hell is flying around without a cloakie. We just don't fly non cloaks most of the time. I sure as hell aren't going to waste time ratting sleepers in anything smaller than a t3. It would just be far too slow. Because if I warp to a medium with a slasher in it for a GF, all I have to do is wait a few seconds to know if there is a pilgrim on the other side because he has to decloak PRIOR to me arriving in the plex to be able to lock me. Furthermore, said pilgrim has to be 30km+ (outside of pointrange) away from the beacon to cloak. Not inside the plex, on the acceleration gate. Where we put our camps. In which case i spam the gate and warp away on the other side
We use remote sebo instalockers... solo players never get away.
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Delt0r Garsk
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Posted - 2014.12.21 11:44:47 -
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Squatdog wrote:Crosi Wesdo wrote:
Though it does look like he killed a gnosis of yours recently. Convo me if you want tips on how to slide gates :)
It involved the single most incompetent hotdrop I've ever seen. They bridged in a dozen stealth bombers and a Falcon to kill a Gnosis...then lost four of the stealth bomber and their bait Rupture. Three of the stealth bombers got blown up by station guns. PRO
You do know we are a NPSI public community where we have a lot of new bros right. If they followed the FC instructions they would have not died. But meh, its a bomber worth what? 50M? Good ship to learn in.
We have fun. A lot of fun. Something most people in eve seem to miss.
Like killing an Ishtar with probes. We also lost a lot of probes, but dude we killed a *Ishtar* with probes. Priceless.
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Posted - 2014.12.21 22:48:23 -
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How the hell does this affect WHs? We don't use ships that you dscan anyway.
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Posted - 2014.12.22 11:09:19 -
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Cassius Invictus wrote:Ehud Gera wrote:Delt0r Garsk wrote:How the hell does this affect WHs? We don't use ships that you dscan anyway. Wait.... you can rat while cloaked? Teach me this Voodoo! .... 5) With the amount of firepower we have on grid when doing sleepers in C5-C6 i wish there was someone dumb enough to try to gank us with recons... EDIT: I just realized that a d-can immunity is essentialy a weaker cov ops cloak - it works the same expept you cant hide on grid and u can be combat probed. Thats it. Nothing broken.
Yea us too. But alas most people that are prepared to hunt in C5-C6s tend to know better. Also if someone was stupid enough to take us on in a combat site, pop an extra escalation and watch them die to sleepers while whoring on the kills. Getting your enemies killed by NPCs --priceless.
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Posted - 2014.12.22 11:12:25 -
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Jeremiah Saken wrote:
Soooo friendly game mechanism to have scout on warp gate in combat site. We been there with loot bukkake, forcing team play when we don't want to team up. Every aspect of this game must force team play? It should not be easy to play solo but not impossible.
This is an MMOG. Massive *Multiplayer* Online Game.
MMOG are like sex. Sure you can go solo, but its more fun in a group.
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Posted - 2014.12.23 15:35:11 -
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Good job holding out on the tears. Not that there are all that many. As a perfect skills Rapier pilot, i look forward to having a reason to fly a hugin.
Really looking forward to the t3 rebalance. Would love a bit of a nurf and then get rid of the SP loss. If the SP loss remains, i hope they don't get too nurfed.
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Posted - 2015.01.19 22:17:00 -
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Today i found that bombers and cloaks are terrible. Why i dscaned and saw nothing. Warp from a planet and like 20 bombers decloaked and killed me. Oh and they had a rapier and a falcon.
Seriously. Losing a ship does not make something terrible.
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Posted - 2015.02.06 17:19:21 -
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Celestia Via wrote:Serendipity Lost wrote:You can argue all the this and thats you want to. I'm flat out telling you - it's been great in wh space w/ no local and no d-scan. In the past we would have to do some planning, maybe make a bm between a POS and a site to warp a dictor to or some other up front work. Now we find them, hop in and kill them. We do it every night. It is easier.
The sad part is, they are weaker than other ships we've used in the past. That results in us dog piling a larger number of recons on a given gank. We do this to keep the dps high. We've come close to losing the odd recon to sleepers. To compensate, we try to bring more to damage tank the whole situation. We're posting some extra lopsided kills because of this.
Our new term for ganking someone w/ recons is 'snack'. Usage: 'we grabbed a quick proteus snack in C3a' Term is copyrighted by Rahmiro, so send isk to him if you use it. I predicted this as well, my posts on it are a couple of pages back. You seem honest enough, please tell us, what effect do you think this will have on wh activity? Here's my take on it : If as you say kills are way easier now, logically more people will turn to employing your tactic to fill their killboards. Does anyone here believe that wormholers will just be ok with losing 1bil ships every other night, without any form of defense possible? I, for one, think not. I think they will go inactive, evacuate or just stop paying their sub. Following the ruin of FWplex comes the ruin of all w-space pve, and therefore w-space pvp as well. Solutions? ban CR's from w-space as well as from FW plexes? We can all see where this is going, the way i see it, is the immunity ruining one activity after the other and getting banned from them accordingly. You will excuse me, but that is pure bollocks. Still looking to hear positive feedback about the immunity. And I mean positive for the game as a whole, not "Its better now cause i get easy kills", spare me that, i beg you.
You don't know wormholers. We aren't going anywhere and well stuff not showing on DScan? what else is new? Seriously DScan imune makes the lest difference to wormhole corps, if they are not dirty farmers that is.
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Posted - 2015.02.07 08:50:44 -
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Celestia Via wrote:Delt0r Garsk wrote:
You don't know wormholers. We aren't going anywhere and well stuff not showing on DScan? what else is new? Seriously DScan imune makes the lest difference to wormhole corps, if they are not dirty farmers that is.
I dont know all of them, but i used to be one, for a couple of years. Perhaps you're talking about c4 or above where the fleet needed for PvE also provides a certain level of safety. Agreed on that. For c3 or below though, we are talking solo/duo PvE, very susceptible to dscan-less gankfleets. If for one person to PvE in a c2 for example, another 5 people are needed to guard him, well it defeats the whole point of small-scale operations, which some people are fond of. And really? dscan makes no difference?? I dont know where you base that remark, from personal experience its the opposite, dscan has saved me more times than i can remember, without it my isk balance would be negative tens of billions. Dont get me wrong, I dont wish for all this to happen in order to say "I told you so". I wish I am wrong, but I have a Cassandra-type gift, the ability to accurately foresee disasters.  And since I dont see any positive feedback yet, perhaps ill start a new thread about it.
Well we are in a C5 now, but we were in a c2-c4. We got dropped all the time even in the c2. By cloaky t3s and bombers. DScan is about as useful as staring at the sun. Right now wtih the warp speed changes, sabers can catch you faster than you can dscan+hit warp in anything that can run even c2s. We have rooks and hugins yet we still find our selves almost 100% using rapiers and falcons mostly because cloaks are better than dscan immunity. It really has changed nothing for us.
And damit what is wrong with not having perfect safety. Get over it. Get use to it. We solo in c3s all the time. We mostly make more than we lose. And really of all places that are affected by this. It has least impact in WHs where the only things that popup on dscan are after your tackled, where a bomber probably works better anyway. The rest has local.
Just look at the killboards, not much combat recons on there at all.
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Posted - 2015.02.09 12:53:37 -
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Our corp is small.. So it may be "our" fits, that I then fly solo fairly often, as in one person from corp is online. Most of us have a few accounts, but even then i still solo with one pilot no links, and last time i also forgot drugs. I mostly pad others killboards in this case. But meh.
Today i used a Hugin for the first time since the change. Its pretty good, but i still prefer a cloak to dscan immunity in the WH. Also the smaller CPU makes some of the fits a little tighter.
Oh and we are a little bit schizo, so i sometimes have arguments with myself.
[edit] of course the C5 is different. Not much you can solo in there.
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Posted - 2015.02.19 16:57:00 -
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Yea like all everyone ever does is fly curses... oh wait no they don't. So let me guess you lost a ship? That doesn't make it OP. A ship being effective or a good counter to a particular fleet composition does not make it OP. A ship being a good force multiplier does not make it OP.
These are t2 cruisers, they are suppose to be good.
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